tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post4085215067442472303..comments2024-03-28T10:50:33.234-07:00Comments on Nationals Baseball: Offseason Position Discussion : Third BaseHarperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-16763155928534149032014-10-29T07:49:59.571-07:002014-10-29T07:49:59.571-07:00If it ain't broke don't try and fix it. I ...If it ain't broke don't try and fix it. I think Rendon is progressing well at 3b, so leave him alone. The solution is in your previous post: find someone to improve 2b offense production. Froggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05425616684415704428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-72302945884259894982014-10-29T06:01:13.089-07:002014-10-29T06:01:13.089-07:00I think Headley's only hit as many as 18 HR in...I think Headley's only hit as many as 18 HR in 2012, so I wouldn't expect it unless he stayed with the Yankees or signed somewhere he could pull the ball and be rewarded. A-Ramirez is probably either playing for Milwaukee or not getting re-signed, either way, as a stopgap, it doesn't really sound like Rizzo offseason trade to me. Same would go for Beltre unless the asking price is less that I imagine it to be. Encarnacion, aka E5 shouldn't play 3B anymore - Zim is already playing first. <br /><br />If the Rays go full re-load, I'd say Zobrist is the target before Longoria. But I'd make that deal for the right price too I suppose, though I've not heard any rumors he's available. If they're willing to eat money, they can have A-Rod for nothing.blovy8https://www.blogger.com/profile/06888192019412533415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-5241699224434467002014-10-28T17:20:38.699-07:002014-10-28T17:20:38.699-07:00John C. - Good scoop on Souza and 3B. I hadn'...John C. - Good scoop on Souza and 3B. I hadn't heard that before but suspected there was something along those lines. I think Skole may be even worse at the hot corner, and he spent most of his time at 1B this year.<br /><br />Someone is going to overpay for Sandoval. Heck, giving him a qualifying offer would be an overpay. I might be intrigued by Headley in the $10-11M range, but not up around $15M. His splits aren't nearly as lopsided as Panda's, and the Nats would benefit from having someone who can hit from the left side.<br /><br />In the meantime, I'm going back to pining for Donaldson . . .KWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-11090271390652420542014-10-28T14:10:01.599-07:002014-10-28T14:10:01.599-07:00Harper
How much do you think a player like Joe Pa...Harper<br /><br />How much do you think a player like Joe Panik is worth? Loads of team control and looks to be a super deluxe frandsen who hits lefty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-956439571485220232014-10-28T09:07:08.124-07:002014-10-28T09:07:08.124-07:00Miles - Somewhere between 3/45 and 5/55 I bet. Pro...Miles - Somewhere between 3/45 and 5/55 I bet. Probably a smidge lower than people are thinking given the market. I bet someone swoops in and gets him for something around 4/45. Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-37632985655333738192014-10-28T07:43:37.695-07:002014-10-28T07:43:37.695-07:00All - I agree with John C. Souza had played 3B (o...All - I agree with John C. Souza had played 3B (or an IF position) for 4 straight years and still was terrible. To put him in now... let's just say I'd rather put Zimm back at 3B and have Souza play 1B if you were forcing all them into the IF. It's not a viable solution to me. <br /><br />Chaos - I suppose you could but the Nats would need a lot of specific talent to make it work. Like he plays 2B when there is a RHP so Espy sits, but then we need a left masher for 3B so he can shift over there. Trade for Baker! <br /><br />blovy8 - it may not seem great but let's take a look here. Sandoval, H Ramirez, Headley are all starter worth and FA. A Ramirez, Beltre and Encarnacion are all heading toward FA next year and probably not going to be re-signed which means they are trade bait. And who knows, Longoria might be available for someone wanting to eat that contract. That's 7 of the Top 15 3B (arguably - A Ram is slip sliding away) I'm not a FA expert but I bet you aren't going to find a FA/trade season like this for a position for a few years. <br /><br />I also saw a lot of Headley and like him more than you do. Yes 2012 was a fluke but I think he'll be a .265 / 18 guy who can walk and play good to great D for the next 3+ years. Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-70058908220752635652014-10-28T07:23:18.863-07:002014-10-28T07:23:18.863-07:00What do you think would be the going rate for Head...What do you think would be the going rate for Headley? Off year, but also nagging injuries that possibly contributed so maybe a offseason would give him a boost to come back productive.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12599491633554776280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-89489705348355655242014-10-28T05:56:40.790-07:002014-10-28T05:56:40.790-07:00According to MLB Trade rumors the prospective 3B f...According to MLB Trade rumors the prospective 3B free agents are:<br />Sandoval<br />Hanley Ramirez<br />Aramis Ramirez (14m option with 4m buyout)<br />Headley<br />Hannahan (4m option, 2m buyout)<br />Callaspo<br />Mark Reynolds<br />Donnie Murphy<br />Kelly Johnson<br />Chris Nelson<br />- I don't know that the choices are great, although I would like Sandoval, I think he's going to get a big deal. Hanley will be likely be priced out of the Nats range too, and have qualifying offer just as Sandoval will. Aramis' mutual option/or qualifying offer probably will happen since that's such a stiff buyout and the Brewers need him, so Headley appears to be the only realistic option. With that fluky 2012 fading, he's starting to look more like a glove-first guy on the decline who's coming off a career year in defensive value - I don't really see him as a strong target for the Nats over keeping Rendon at 3rd and going after a 2B through a trade. The other guys stink, and given that even a AAAA type of guy like Hannahan has a deal like that, I can only imagine what Headley will command as a free agent. I bet Cabrera would be cheaper to bring back.<br />blovy8https://www.blogger.com/profile/06888192019412533415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-5281120436663939512014-10-27T16:48:51.973-07:002014-10-27T16:48:51.973-07:00Having Souza play 3b is a really out of the box su...Having Souza play 3b is a <i>really</i> out of the box suggestion. He hasn't played 3b since 2010 in Hagerstown, and he was moved off 3b on merit. At Fanfest last spring he told the story of being heckled by fans in Hagerstown about his fielding at 3b, and seemed to think the fans were right about it. Small wonder - he made 92 errors and turned only 23 DPs in 249 games. That's a rate of about 60 errors per 162 games! Yuck. His career fielding percentage at 3b is .866. That means more than one of every eight balls hit at him resulted in an error. <br /><br />For perspective, Josh Donaldson led all major league third baseman in errors this year ... with 23. Even acknowledging that errors are an imperfect measure, yikes.<br /><br />Putting a player at 3b who hasn't played 3b in four years, was <i>terrible</i> at it when he did, openly mocked his own ability at the position, and who has found a solid home in the OF (and was pretty good at 1b when he played there in 2011) doesn't seem to me to be so much "out of the box" as "a terrible idea."John C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-14175961680796015722014-10-27T15:20:29.894-07:002014-10-27T15:20:29.894-07:00Here's your out of the box--Rendon becomes the...Here's your out of the box--Rendon becomes the Nat's Zobrist. Play him in the OF, play him at 2nd, play him at 3B.....just play him. 9 or 10 guys to fill 8 lineup spots is ideal. From what I've seen of Tony Two Bags, he'll play anywhere and not care. Play the position well, get the hits. On the Bryce/Rendon question, Bryce's ceiling is just too far up there to compare them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-29226749780777958332014-10-27T14:57:55.017-07:002014-10-27T14:57:55.017-07:00I agree Rizzo ain't moving Rendon back to sec...I agree Rizzo ain't moving Rendon back to second. Even though signing Sandoval or Ramirez to play third seems best to me. Chaz is rightAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-61738926670247819852014-10-27T13:23:35.811-07:002014-10-27T13:23:35.811-07:00I agree with Anon#1. Having Souza play 3B in wintr...I agree with Anon#1. Having Souza play 3B in wintr league is the true outside the box suggestionsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-74541425741443545462014-10-27T11:52:10.074-07:002014-10-27T11:52:10.074-07:00As much as I'd like to see Rizzo go out and ge...As much as I'd like to see Rizzo go out and get a power hitter for 3B, I just don't see them moving Rendon back to 2B. I suspect they want to allow Rendon some consistency to continue to develop at 3B. It's a not a terrible plan, but getting one of the available 2Bman or bringing Cabrera back isn't going to improve the offense as much as a new 3Bman would.Chas Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00306056671418831755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-53027592175913776682014-10-27T10:18:29.364-07:002014-10-27T10:18:29.364-07:00Outside the box: reacquaint Souza with third base ...Outside the box: reacquaint Souza with third base and move Rendon to second. Save the money on a big-name free agent for second or third and sign Desmond for five more years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-28651533704752376082014-10-27T10:16:38.115-07:002014-10-27T10:16:38.115-07:00Jay - any Rendon to 2nd idea would be worth explor...Jay - any Rendon to 2nd idea would be worth exploring but I can't see it happening unless Rendon himself initiates it and why would he? While I have my preference I accept that's the reality. And let's face it - he can play 3rd and it's a position that's on the hard side to fill so it could be far far worse. Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-62581665303638535252014-10-27T10:15:50.185-07:002014-10-27T10:15:50.185-07:00Thanks HarperThanks HarperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-5683011674911070682014-10-27T10:11:48.572-07:002014-10-27T10:11:48.572-07:00I still vote sign Sandoval and move Rendon to seco...I still vote sign Sandoval and move Rendon to second. I know it's been covered. Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-35822819792326595742014-10-27T10:05:48.149-07:002014-10-27T10:05:48.149-07:00Anon - HHAHAHAHAHA no. I have no idea where that n...Anon - HHAHAHAHAHA no. I have no idea where that number would come from. If I were to guess... A few thousand maybe? I have no good idea how to calculate something like that but I'd guess low. <br /><br />Tavares death is terrible. It's just so... wrong when something like this happens to someone so young, for whatever the reasons. I won't say "unfair" because what is fair, but it's not the way things are supposed to go. Wrong. <br /><br />Were you looking for a baseball take? <br />Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-56409527343464730632014-10-27T09:46:41.084-07:002014-10-27T09:46:41.084-07:00If both are healthy I think Bryce, but I like Rend...If both are healthy I think Bryce, but I like Rendon to be healthier. So I say Bryce has a OMG year in there but in overall value Rendon takes the 3 year rangeHarperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-54102101686552400172014-10-27T09:46:10.845-07:002014-10-27T09:46:10.845-07:00And what do you think of taveras deathAnd what do you think of taveras deathAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-46143837818744638862014-10-27T09:44:53.177-07:002014-10-27T09:44:53.177-07:00Harper I saw something that said your site could b...Harper I saw something that said your site could be worth 9 mill is that trueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-13742584627940335542014-10-27T09:34:15.940-07:002014-10-27T09:34:15.940-07:00Harper who would you think will be better for the ...Harper who would you think will be better for the next 3 seasons Harper or Rendon?Jimmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536083039518387432noreply@blogger.com