tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post4492322217856150543..comments2024-03-28T10:50:33.234-07:00Comments on Nationals Baseball: Starting Offensive TargetsHarperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-87280116186567739922017-07-14T13:44:42.045-07:002017-07-14T13:44:42.045-07:00Harper - what would a hypothetical trade with OAK ...Harper - what would a hypothetical trade with OAK for Gray / Doolittle look like? What about if Madson joined it?Natsochistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-46070912317037192002017-07-14T13:43:26.679-07:002017-07-14T13:43:26.679-07:00@ssln - Cubs have played far below expectations / ...@ssln - Cubs have played far below expectations / Brewers far above, and Cubs just made themselves better. Brewers are leading the Central, but not running away with it. It's reasonable to think that Cubs are still the favorites to eventually win it. As for Jackson, I still remember the 2012 playoffs - please no to him in the Pen, although I'm okay with him as SP insurance.<br /><br />@KW - He's been pitching poorly in the first half, but his peripherals are generally similar to last year. Track record, unlike Gio, is near-ace level over several years. It's possible he's declining permanently, but seems more likely that he's just had a rough first half and should rebound. More importantly for Cubs: he's cheap for next few years, which will help them as their young core gets more expensive through arbitration. That's the big reason he cost so much in prospects.<br /><br />@BxJaycobb - BA just came out with their midseason prospect ratings. Eloy is #5. Soto is #95. That's a huge difference. Robles, at #8, is a much closer comp.Natsochistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-90907841678930246232017-07-14T06:46:43.722-07:002017-07-14T06:46:43.722-07:00For those who haven't bothered to look, Quinta...For those who haven't bothered to look, Quintana has a 4.49 ERA. For reference, he's currently pitching about like the 2016 version of Gio. Unless he dramatically improves in the second half, he's not really much of an upgrade on the pitching mediocrity the Cubbies have shown thus far. (And I will laugh my head off if they lose the division to the Brewers and don't even make the playoffs.)KWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-78755082403284258562017-07-13T23:02:32.739-07:002017-07-13T23:02:32.739-07:00The Cubs problem isn't hitting with RISP (whic...The Cubs problem isn't hitting with RISP (which isn't a skill, it's luck, so has no bearing on future predictive results)....it's hitting in general. I would currently handicap the Central as roughly 50-50 odds between Brewers and Cubs. BxJaycobbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15841583667789907324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-58111026378257653152017-07-13T23:00:23.024-07:002017-07-13T23:00:23.024-07:00I don't buy that report at all. The trade that...I don't buy that report at all. The trade that Lerner's vetoed was for Lazardo and Ward. They wouldn't go from that to Soto and Fedde. It's illogical. Unless the Nats were literally like "we are willing to pick up zero of the money through the entire contract." Or something just as absurd. The fact is Soto and Fedde isn't THAT different in value from what they got from the Cubs (Eloy is above Soto in rankings but not by much and Fedde is above the 2nd main piece). Clearly Robertson isn't going to fetch even half of what Quintana is. So I wouldn't worry. I also think Rizzo wants somebody better than Robertson. (Report that they contacted Os!) BxJaycobbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15841583667789907324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-1370253689553125602017-07-13T17:34:29.829-07:002017-07-13T17:34:29.829-07:00So let me get this straight. The Cubs get Quintana...So let me get this straight. The Cubs get Quintana and two or three of you think that gives them the Central. He might win them a couple more games but their big problem is clutch hitting with RISP. They are not challenging the Brewers unless they get that problem solved. <br />Anyone look up Edwin Jackson's stats at Syracuse. Record 2-0 in four games with 17 plus innings pitched. ERA 0.00 with a whip under 1. 20 Ks and 10 walks--okay so he is wild. You got your 5th starter. You just don't know it yet or maybe the long man in the BP. sslnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05853597641731504272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-85285509530184834412017-07-13T16:37:23.924-07:002017-07-13T16:37:23.924-07:00Am I the only person that wants to tell the White ...Am I the only person that wants to tell the White Sox to shove it. Svrluga wrote in the Post that the White Sox may want Fedde or Soto for Robertson. For a guy that is a control guy?? His claim to fame is closing in New York??? No way imo. I'm ok with giving up a great prospect or more for a very good to great closer. I am even ok with an overpay for a very good to great closer. I am not ok with a huge overpay for a meh closer. Robertson can be a set up guy imo. I wouldn't give up anything more significant than what they offered back in the spring.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-44868171294751625872017-07-13T12:26:46.538-07:002017-07-13T12:26:46.538-07:00Quintana trade is interesting to the Nats for a fe...Quintana trade is interesting to the Nats for a few reasons. The obvious one is that it makes the Cubs better and potentially a more challenging playoff opponent. The less obvious one is that it establishes a value for Robles. You can quibble about who you like more between him and Eloy, but both are 20 year olds raking in high-A in the top 10 on most (all?) prospect lists. Quintana (and his ridiculous contract) is more valuable than any relief pitcher on the planet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-61917329570807588792017-07-13T11:05:46.305-07:002017-07-13T11:05:46.305-07:00@Fries- while this is a win for Nats in MASN dispu...@Fries- while this is a win for Nats in MASN dispute, this is a small win. MASN dispute is still no where near finished. This decision can be appealed and even if it goes back to arbitration THAT are decision can be appealed. NotBobbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-91973411150304337442017-07-13T11:05:36.462-07:002017-07-13T11:05:36.462-07:00I'm with G Cracka... seems like a super utilit...I'm with G Cracka... seems like a super utility guy like Nunez (OF/3B/SS) would make a lot of sense. Not much speed on the Nats bench at the moment (pretty sure Turner and MAT are the only guys with more than a couple stolen bases). Versatility plus late-inning baserunning is key in the postseason.<br /><br />Jarrod Dyson could also fit the bill. Not as versatile but makes up for it with the WS ring, left-handed bat, and elite defense.<br /><br />Cameron Maybin would be another option just for the speed. Currently 4th in majors in stolen bases (25). All three guys are upcoming free agents on non-contenders so they shouldn't cost much in prospects.<br /><br />Thoughts?Dustin M. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10999131589970427610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-14907277602651386092017-07-13T11:02:39.215-07:002017-07-13T11:02:39.215-07:00Alright Lerners, no more excuses. MASN money will ...Alright Lerners, no more excuses. MASN money will start flowing in so go give Harper that big extension and trade for the fattest contract rental your hearts' desire<br /><br />https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nationals-journal/wp/2017/07/13/ruling-in-masn-dispute-with-orioles-goes-the-nationals-way/?utm_term=.812717fef3acFriesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-61457990738867450372017-07-13T10:05:45.302-07:002017-07-13T10:05:45.302-07:00I do not think Rizzo HAS to get three relievers be...I do not think Rizzo HAS to get three relievers before the trade deadline. He needs to get two or three before the playoffs, but i could see him trading for one really good RP arm, maybe two and then getting one or two more before the waiver deadline. More teams will be selling by then and everyone who isn't playing for October will be okay trading an RP. So, Rizzo goes and gets Doolittle and someone and then gets one or two more at the waiver deadline.NotBobbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-40572968226433802122017-07-13T09:52:19.654-07:002017-07-13T09:52:19.654-07:00How does everyone feel about Nunez for super utili...How does everyone feel about Nunez for super utility? He could probably play anywhere except CF, and I imagine he wouldn't cost too much, especially since he is rehabbing.G Cracka Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16718297381010491862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-10203426135269793062017-07-13T09:49:32.130-07:002017-07-13T09:49:32.130-07:00@mike k The Quintana trade possibly impacts the Na...@mike k The Quintana trade possibly impacts the Nats postseason chances, as the Cubs may be the first round opponentG Cracka Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16718297381010491862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-91138637524726536732017-07-13T09:38:09.281-07:002017-07-13T09:38:09.281-07:00Quintana to the Cubs for prospects.
I don't s...Quintana to the Cubs for prospects.<br /><br />I don't see the Nats getting a corner OF, unless they really don't think Werth is coming back until September or something. Werth's doing well enough this year at the plate where the increase from Werth to someone you'd get in a trade doesn't really make giving up anything in a trade worth it. And an OF of Werth-Bryce-guy is not acceptable and isn't something Rizzo would do. Now if Werth was out until September...then maybe...because you're getting more value out of the guy you're trading for and you can mix/match in the playoffs.<br /><br />(I don't see the Nats mix/matching in the regular season with a corner outfielder because it's not 4 spots in 3...it's Bryce, MAT/Goodwin, and 2 spots in 1).<br /><br />I agree McCutchen makes a ton of sense, but I don't see the Pirates' price decreasing from the beginning of the year since McCutchen has rebounded this year. Hopefully they'll still get no suitors and their price will decrease out of panic...but there's no guarantee the Nats and not some other team will benefit from that.<br /><br />Zack Cozart seems interesting, but I don't think it happens. I do like the idea from the earlier post of the Nats just stockpiling a ton of new relievers, and think their limited trade chips should be used for that purpose.mike knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-92156026259875989062017-07-13T08:36:37.631-07:002017-07-13T08:36:37.631-07:00@NotBobby
I'm interested to see what will hap...@NotBobby<br /><br />I'm interested to see what will happen with Werth. He's not your classic DH bat, so finding an AL team who'd take him may be tricky. And because I don't think he'll take a 4th OF spot, I honestly wonder if he might just "retire" and wait to sign with a team when an injury happens in ST or midseason next year.<br /><br />That being said, I don't think Werth is stupid enough to complain. This is likely his last chance to get another ring, and if he's smart he'll take a cut in playing time to both stay healthy down the stretch and increase his odds of getting that ring. Things were different in the Ole PBN era because he had a few years left on his contract. Not the same kind of leverage now.<br /><br />All in all, though, I don't see Martinez/Wilson happening, that would be a costly trade package that I'm not sure Rizzo would bite on, especially since the Nats would be buying high on WilsonFriesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-57763023013159804802017-07-13T08:11:46.148-07:002017-07-13T08:11:46.148-07:00I think McCutchen actually makes a lot of sense he...I think McCutchen actually makes a lot of sense here. McCutchen plays CF for the stretch run and slides to LF in 2017. MAT can't be the centerpiece of the deal, but I wonder if you could include him in it to lower the prospect price a bit? I don't think the Nats do this because (1) their resources are needed for the bullpen; and (2) the pirates' asking price will probably be too high to get a deal done with anybody. But if the Pirates are realistic about what 1.5 years of McCutchen at $21 million is worth, I think there is a fit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-19036442963855712672017-07-13T07:29:49.581-07:002017-07-13T07:29:49.581-07:00I would love putting a package together to get Wil...I would love putting a package together to get Wilson and Martinez from the Tigers. It would make Nat better and keep him from the Cards and their devil magic. With Martinez they might win the Central and give me major indigestion. <br /><br />But, there are a couple problems. One is the cost, but the biggie is Werth. If Werth comes back, you do not want a Werth, Harper, Martinez OF. Werth is only palatable in OF bc Harper and Eaton/MAT are out there to make up the extra ground. Plus, i do not see Werth taking a playing time cut very well. He has a lot of pride and is a clubhouse leader. He wants to be on the field. <br /><br />Maybe Werth would take it if Nats extend him and he accepts being a 4th OF/bench bat and help the young OFers? Not sure if he is that kind of guy. I think he will go to AL to play the field and DH and keep starter ABs... <br /><br />The Nets offense with JDMart would be AMAZING. And the cost shouldn't be Robles (tho of course they would ask for him). Maybe Tigers like Soto and we give two more middling prospects?) But, Werth is the stumbling block here. He would need to accept what that means...NotBobbynoreply@blogger.com