tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post4567459785707103101..comments2024-03-28T10:50:33.234-07:00Comments on Nationals Baseball: Bryce Harper TrackerHarperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-28892026736760180962015-09-18T18:22:34.928-07:002015-09-18T18:22:34.928-07:00Natsochist, Old Fashioneds are absolutely my thing...Natsochist, Old Fashioneds are absolutely my thing. Thanks for the recommendation. I'll definitely try it. Booyah Suckah!https://www.blogger.com/profile/15889536631740406219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-47300176783973406172015-09-18T11:28:53.460-07:002015-09-18T11:28:53.460-07:00I am a big fan of 100 Montaditos on Tingey St. Mon...I am a big fan of 100 Montaditos on Tingey St. Montaditos are little Spanish-style sandwiches. Good, cheap, and yes there are 100 varieties. Beer and Sangria as well.<br /><br />The BBQ place Natsochist mentions is called Willie's Brew and Que. I've been there once, it was pretty decent.Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17586615594990914752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-25682991548547398982015-09-18T11:09:47.618-07:002015-09-18T11:09:47.618-07:00Bon Chon chicken is a tremendous option.Bon Chon chicken is a tremendous option.JAChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806741630286543253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-69442569376633891152015-09-18T08:21:07.414-07:002015-09-18T08:21:07.414-07:00@Max, Booyah - The Big Stick is great. Had an outs...@Max, Booyah - The Big Stick is great. Had an outstanding burger there pre-game last homestand, and they have an excellent whiskey selection as well (and amazing Old Fashioneds, if that's your thing). They're right across M street when you leave the Metro, with a big TV outside showing MASN.<br /><br />I also heartily second the recommendation on Blue Jacket. There's also a BBQ place around the corner from it whose name escapes me at the moment. Same block, though. You'll walk right by it if you're heading to Blue Jacket.<br /><br />Bullpen - love the atmosphere, hate their beer selection this year. But then, I prefer dark beers or IPAs, and they have nothing remotely close to that this time around. They're also expensive on the drinks - for weekend games, you can get $5 beers at the Scoreboard walk in the stadium pre-first pitch, but those same beers at the Bullpen are $7 or $8.<br /><br />There's also Justin's Cafe on Half-Street. Good pizza, good beer, good atmosphere, although it's <b>packed</b> pre-game. Get there early enough and you can grab a seat at the table.Natsochistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-67737105649370069522015-09-18T06:45:09.059-07:002015-09-18T06:45:09.059-07:00For a Nats fan, I would recommend Annie's Stea...For a Nats fan, I would recommend Annie's Steakhouse in Dupont Circle. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-73599435752608975432015-09-18T04:42:41.130-07:002015-09-18T04:42:41.130-07:00Max, there's a couple good options, depending ...Max, there's a couple good options, depending on the last time you were down. New place called Bluejacket, two blocks or so east down Tingey from the stadium. Brewery, cool vibe, great beer, good food.<br /><br />Also, I'm actually a pretty big fan of the Bullpen. It's a little low-brow for some folks, but I like sitting outside and drinking beer out of a can. And their beer selection is actually pretty good. And it's the only place I know of outside the stadium that you can get Coors Heavy (although I could be wrong). Also, there's been a food truck inside lately that has some really excellent brisket sandwiches.<br /><br />There's also a new-ish place right next to the Metro entrance called The Big Stick (which I really hope is a Teddy Roosevelt reference, although I don't know for sure). Haven't been yet, but it looks pretty cool. Sports bar vibe, from the look.<br /><br />And of course, as you said, can't beat a Hefe and some garlic fries from Gordon Biersch.Booyah Suckah!https://www.blogger.com/profile/15889536631740406219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-635465006059127332015-09-18T04:41:18.773-07:002015-09-18T04:41:18.773-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Booyah Suckah!https://www.blogger.com/profile/15889536631740406219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-80162445789134226702015-09-17T22:00:35.247-07:002015-09-17T22:00:35.247-07:00"Anon @ 7:46 / @7:55 - I would never say neve..."Anon @ 7:46 / @7:55 - I would never say never but it would have to be at least what he thinks he'll max out on in the open market. Given that might be in the 14/30per range, (350 mill is low) We're looking at 17/30pers so... something like a 500 million dollar deal might keep him from hitting FA. I don't see the Lerners doing that."<br /><br />Actually, if the Lerners aren't willing to offer Bryce something like this, the would be incredibly short-sighted and would be ignoring the history of Washington sports franchises. The damage to the Nationals long-term caused by not locking up Bryce long-term could be much more than $30 million per year.<br /><br />For comparison, consider the history of the Bullets/Wizards vs the Capitals. DC is a much, much bigger basketball town than hockey town, but the Capitals have for years have had an easier time filling their arena than the Bullets/Wizards have. And I would argue that one of the reasons for this is that when Leonsis bought the Caps from Pollin, Leonsis spent the money necessary to compete with the major city franchises in places such as Boston, Philadelphia and New York; Pollin, in contrast, continued to operate on the cheap, as he had done for years and fielded a second rate team.<br /><br />Leonsis is still digging out of this hole now that he owns The Wizards, who were 13th out of 30 teams in attendance in 2015.<br /><br />http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance<br /><br />In contrast, the Capitals were 5th out of 30 teams in attendance, just behind Philadelphia and ahead of Boston and the New York Rangers.<br /><br />http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance<br /><br />Therefore, I think it would be highly dangerous to the future fan support of the Nationals for the Lerners to effectively admit they cannot compete for talent with a team in New York, Boston or Philadelphia. Those are the franchises Washington fans expect their teams to compete with for talent, or the fans will not show up to support the team long-term.<br /><br />Furthermore, based on at least's Forbes analysis, the Nationals are the 9th most valuable MLB franchise, behind the Mets but ahead of the Phillies.<br /><br />http://www.forbes.com/mlb-valuations/list/<br /><br />I personally think the damage to the Nationals brand will be a lot more than $500 million if the Nationals allow Harper to get away. I think a significant portion of the fanbase will never forgive the Nationals' ownership for allowing that to happen.<br /><br />Also, by 2018, it is possible that Harper might be the only significant star on the Nationals that they can promote with any success.Zimmerman and Werth may be retired and Rendon may never be a dependable everyday player. By 2018, Harper may be worth more to the Nationals than to any other team in baseball for this reason alone.BornInDCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-49028045940124546882015-09-17T19:28:37.235-07:002015-09-17T19:28:37.235-07:00Welp, that was a nice rally in the 8th there, but ...Welp, that was a nice rally in the 8th there, but too little, too late. Now we really have to win the next 3 and the Mets need to lose next 3 just to get it to Harper's 5 games by weekends end. I wanted it at 4, but I'll take 5. 1 more loss OR 1 more Mets win, and I think we can pull the plug on the season.<br /><br />BTW, I'm heading down from Connecticut for the games Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Besides Gordon Biersch, any other good bars/restaurants to go to before and or after the game??Max Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06425423505319440584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-33182349053325936272015-09-17T15:56:33.098-07:002015-09-17T15:56:33.098-07:00Every comeback projection requires extra optimism ...Every comeback projection requires extra optimism at this point. I'm just looking for a meaningful H2H, ie, cut the Mets lead to 3 games. Achieving that much implies we'd be going into Citi Field rolling with momentum on our side with the Mets imploding like it's 2007. <br /><br />Harper has it about right. If the Nats can reach Monday with a 5 game deficit, that means we'd need to pick up only 2 games over 10. If we gain a modest 1.5 games (say 3-1, Mets 1-2), picking up 3 games over 10 is still reasonable, especially if the Mets are coming off 2 straight series losses and panic is creeping in. If we don't gain ground this weekend, picking up 4 or 5 games over 10 isn't impossible but it'd be a stretch. Of course, we can't afford to lose any more ground.<br /><br />I know Harper doesn't like to hear about the "stupid 2007 Mets", but the Mets and Nats <i>are</i> almost exactly where the Mets and Phillies were at this point in 2007. I'll take inspiration for a comeback anywhere I can find it. We basically just got back the Marlins series from last weekend. If this weekend goes right, we get back the Mets sweep from last week. Then with a little more help, we play a reeling Mets team for the division. The season isn't over yet. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-74417743324185355722015-09-17T13:04:56.768-07:002015-09-17T13:04:56.768-07:00Everyone remember that no sports team owner will l...Everyone remember that no sports team owner will lower ticket prices because of lower player salaries. They're charging you what they think the market will bear. Players are getting around 40 percent of baseball revenues these days, which is less than in any other major sport. So, the contracts are nowhere near cost prohibitive.<br /><br />I don't know whether or not I'd give Bryce that deal (17 years $500 million) but I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with ticket prices.Section 220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-35743779959579412512015-09-17T12:10:50.905-07:002015-09-17T12:10:50.905-07:00BTW by the city logic the number to beat is 48 by ...BTW by the city logic the number to beat is 48 by Frank Howard in 1969.Bryceroninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-17211834614121644602015-09-17T11:59:48.991-07:002015-09-17T11:59:48.991-07:00lol...
that would be one way to negotiate I guess...lol...<br /><br />that would be one way to negotiate I guess. <br /><br />$30M/yr for 17 yrs. Man, if only I had that kind of talent. If only....sigh. Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07359859089545299921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-33648610315843832862015-09-17T11:53:27.614-07:002015-09-17T11:53:27.614-07:00Rob - not if you stretch it over 100 years, baby!!...Rob - not if you stretch it over 100 years, baby!! :)<br /><br />"Uh, Bryce, we'll pay you and your kids and your grandkids whatever you want, just give us some runway here, ok?"<br />"How much runway?"<br />"100 years?"<br /><br />/Bryce leaves the room, goes and signs deal with Dodgers payable in his lifetime<br />WiredHKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-56790926436512537712015-09-17T11:40:00.860-07:002015-09-17T11:40:00.860-07:0017 years/ $500? .... good lawd, what would that do...17 years/ $500? .... good lawd, what would that do to ticket prices? At some point, these contracts have to get cost prohibitive, right?Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07359859089545299921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-31445192418510150622015-09-17T11:17:13.415-07:002015-09-17T11:17:13.415-07:001 : Yes. Unless it has an out.
2 : 17 years / 500...1 : Yes. Unless it has an out. <br />2 : 17 years / 500 million. Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-69473520463644584112015-09-17T11:14:32.812-07:002015-09-17T11:14:32.812-07:00Hypothetical 1: Lets say the Lerner's offer Br...Hypothetical 1: Lets say the Lerner's offer Bryce $400 million this off season at 12yr/30mil per. Do you think Bryce would turn this down?<br /><br />Hypothetical 2: The Lerner's go to Bryce this offseason and tell him they want him in DC for his entire career, what will it take? What kinda of contract would Bryce put in front of them? You think he would ask for around 14/35 (490mil)? More?Bryceisrightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-54975396369951452712015-09-17T10:37:22.169-07:002015-09-17T10:37:22.169-07:00yamf - 2 - Just because that's how most Nats f...yamf - 2 - Just because that's how most Nats fans see the team. Not as an extension of the Expos, but as a new DC franchise following Senators 1 and Senators 2. It's how most fans in cities see teams that relocate. There is no connection for them to a guy that did great in a city hundreds of miles away so it shouldn't be acknowledged outside of a tip of the hat here and there. I think the NFL had it right when they basically put the Browns franchise in limbo and said the Ravens were something new. <br /><br />I liked the Expos too (I actually was blogging very breifly about the Expos before they got sold off to be moved) but I think we have to bend toward how the fans actually experience the teams. If a few players get hurt in the franchise record books or a lack of old-timers days or stuff like that, it's an unfortunate but very minor consequence. Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-7704174192632114042015-09-17T10:22:02.654-07:002015-09-17T10:22:02.654-07:00I disagree with the last post. I go along with th...I disagree with the last post. I go along with the school of thought that people that hire Boras do so for one reason - to get the most money possible out of contracts. I agree that Harper won't stay in Washington. I think the Dodgers or the Yankees get him - I'd predict Yankees with Harper's love of NY and Mantle, but who knows. <br /><br />Does it change your opinion of him if he bolts for another team at 26? What about Strasburg and the shut down? The Nats shut him down and imo were doing the right thing. But he is now likely leaving town next year for another team. The Nats will have shut him down for a failed playoff run in 2014 and that might be it.<br /><br />I also agree that until it's 4 games Sunday night that it doesn't matter. I think the Nats split with Miami (at best). I think the Mets get killed by the Yankees, but it won't matter - see last statement.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-91793290747151855242015-09-17T10:10:48.027-07:002015-09-17T10:10:48.027-07:00If the offense can give you 10-12 runs every game ...If the offense can give you 10-12 runs every game and the starting pitchers can last for 8 innings, then the nationals have a chance. However, if the offense gives the starter a 6 run lead and the starter lasts only 5 innings, then they are doomed. Refer to the last Mets-nats series. In each of those games we held a lead. In fact in two the games, we had a large lead until the bull pen came in. We still have the same lousy pen and there is no reason to believe that there will be a different outcome. There have been two consistent things with the Nats this year--Bryce Harper's outstanding year and a leaky bull pen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-31947167012900970632015-09-17T10:06:41.430-07:002015-09-17T10:06:41.430-07:004.5 to go.4.5 to go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-18688442219716658832015-09-17T09:54:51.725-07:002015-09-17T09:54:51.725-07:00@7:55 Anon
There's a lot in that statement, b...@7:55 Anon<br /><br />There's a lot in that statement, but first I'd ask what if the Nationals offer that $350 million deal, or even more, before he has a chance to get it from the Yankees? And why are we sure the Yankees would outbid the Nationals, let alone the Dodgers? <br /><br />And second, I don't think Harper is a guy who will care what Boras "lets" him do. I think he'll do what he wants to do. I'm not in his head so I don't know if that is good for the Nationals or not, but Harper will have plenty of leverage to tell Boras what to do more than the other way around since there's a good chance he'll get the biggest sports contract ever.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05186251955124143942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-85803728212386785082015-09-17T09:54:31.197-07:002015-09-17T09:54:31.197-07:00"PBN" = "Paint By Numbers." A..."PBN" = "Paint By Numbers." A reference to Matt Williams's lack of flexibility, in particular his managerial preference of only using certain players in certain roles regardless of the larger game situation.John C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-36527092642068933222015-09-17T09:53:46.191-07:002015-09-17T09:53:46.191-07:00Paint by numbers (Matt Williams)Paint by numbers (Matt Williams)Bryceroninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-37605510719575580292015-09-17T09:39:08.467-07:002015-09-17T09:39:08.467-07:005. oh, forgot...what does PBN stand for?5. oh, forgot...what does PBN stand for?yetanothermetsfannoreply@blogger.com