tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post6324056153724946457..comments2024-03-18T07:03:39.210-07:00Comments on Nationals Baseball: Werth rhymes with a lot of stuffHarperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-3331922350630656672015-01-12T07:40:30.925-08:002015-01-12T07:40:30.925-08:00But Dan Uggla supposedly got plunked twice prior t...But Dan Uggla supposedly got plunked twice prior to falling off said cliff. He states a doctor recently told him that this caused him to be unable to track a baseball with his eyes. He has now undergone physical therapy and been "cured". So Uggla is obviously the answer at 2b. (preceding statement was example of sarcasm)<br /><br />Also, did anyone read the article about Danny the K still being a switch hitter written in the Post? Wow, that guy is still in major denial. The best quote - "If I've been successful as a ball player switch hitting, why wouldn't I continue switch hitting?" Uhh.... how does he define successful??<br /><br />It hurts losing Souza. If he were still here I don't know that fans would even sweat Werth's surgery. Also, is anyone else still worried that the Nats have signed no one to an extension or contract? Looks like the Nats are now the Oakland A's. Oh well.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-1769798378364305502015-01-12T06:15:09.842-08:002015-01-12T06:15:09.842-08:00@Anon -
Well they got a major's ready catche...@Anon - <br /><br />Well they got a major's ready catcher, so equate that to Lobaton. Their top MI-prospect, for which we don't have a great comparison, and then a promising hitting prospect. So Lobaton/Cole/Taylor might be in the ballpark. I think Robertson's probly worth more than Cole in the long run, but Taylor's more established than Boog PowellBjd1207https://www.blogger.com/profile/08595153543505790679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-35828413861801695772015-01-12T00:00:27.580-08:002015-01-12T00:00:27.580-08:00I think it must be the middle of winter if uggla i...I think it must be the middle of winter if uggla is starting to look like a solution.<br /><br />Just for kicks, what (just from a value standpoint) would the Nat's ha e had to offer to mafch the return for zobrist + escobar? Is cole + Taylor in the neighborhood?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-84802195629081612642015-01-11T18:26:01.091-08:002015-01-11T18:26:01.091-08:00@C-Ex
So your saying it is as terrible as it soun...@C-Ex<br /><br />So your saying it is as terrible as it sounds on-face?<br /><br />Lol, for whatever reason I had it in my head that he was a switch hitter, which is what made me look up the splits in the first place. And he was slightly better against righties, especially the last couple years.Bjd1207https://www.blogger.com/profile/08595153543505790679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-60302003949695473572015-01-11T16:29:51.137-08:002015-01-11T16:29:51.137-08:00Bjd: How does that platoon work? Uggla is a righ...Bjd: How does that platoon work? Uggla is a righty and his splits against right handed pitching weren't exceptionaly even before he fel off a cliff. Chinatown Expressnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-46062406841353227962015-01-11T09:04:54.961-08:002015-01-11T09:04:54.961-08:00I don't think the A's want T-Mo. They'...I don't think the A's want T-Mo. They're clearing space for their top 1b prospect. <br /><br />On another note, is an Espinosa/Uggla platoon secretly not as terrible as it appears on-face?Bjd1207https://www.blogger.com/profile/08595153543505790679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-1265930111812998182015-01-11T08:46:16.890-08:002015-01-11T08:46:16.890-08:00Unless Zim has suddenly developed an arm, putting ...Unless Zim has suddenly developed an arm, putting him in the OF is not a good idea. But not as terrible as having Tyler Moore as part of the solution. Unless he is wearing an Oakland A's uniform.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-17885372828782392142015-01-11T08:06:02.029-08:002015-01-11T08:06:02.029-08:00Regarding Werth's injury: I can't remember...Regarding Werth's injury: I can't remember a time when an injured player, out for a couple of weeks or more, came back on time and performed as he did before. Let's look for Werth performing as expected sometime in the middle of June (or later).<br />That makes KO's idea of moving Zimm to left and looking for a first baseman much more likely to succeed, planning for the 1B replacement to be there much of the year (and we'll assume that no one else will be injured this year! :) )Barneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02073350468014652451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-39821195941597836802015-01-10T14:56:17.105-08:002015-01-10T14:56:17.105-08:00Trade AJ Cole AGAIN to OAK? LMFAO!!!Trade AJ Cole AGAIN to OAK? LMFAO!!!Zimmerman11https://www.blogger.com/profile/14524103974207323535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-81495978731452072072015-01-10T14:28:32.579-08:002015-01-10T14:28:32.579-08:00A trade with the A's to get Zobrist may not wa...A trade with the A's to get Zobrist may not wait until the trading deadline. They got Escobar too, who it sounds like they were sweet on. Since the A's are in more of a rebuild mode, that may have been more of their target with the hopes to quickly flip Zobrist to recoup the loss in prospects. Just a thought.Donaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295227567170577873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-26485260537234554122015-01-10T11:57:09.780-08:002015-01-10T11:57:09.780-08:00Zobrist to OAK. This is good... we can sort thing...Zobrist to OAK. This is good... we can sort things out in the first half, and if we dont' have an answer, trade with OAK (AGAIN) to get Zobrist :)<br /><br />I'm glad we did not pay the price Beane paid for a rental player.<br /><br />Jaso, Robertson, and Powell...Jaso appeared in 99 games last season for Oakland, batting .264 with nine homers and 40 RBIs.<br /><br />Robertson, 20, was a first-round draft selection of the Athletics in 2012 and batted .310 with 15 homers at Class A Stockton last season.<br /><br />Powell, who is not related to former Baltimore Orioles slugger Boog Powell, batted .343 while splitting last season between Stockton and Class A Beloit.Zimmerman11https://www.blogger.com/profile/14524103974207323535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-34639269078636502162015-01-09T13:40:07.037-08:002015-01-09T13:40:07.037-08:00Zobrist is a fine player, but all signs point to t...Zobrist is a fine player, but all signs point to them asking for more than a prospect like Heaney. We can't do that for one year and not open up huge holes barring some unforeseen windfall that the dragged out MASN case is not going to provide. It's not just the 7.5 million this year, it's not having Taylor or, Cole, i.e, the guys who COULD play for you in 2016. Span will cost at least the qualifying amount next season, and you have to hope Cole and Treinen or someone else can replace 2 starters, while planning on yet another middle infield set of stopgaps. That's a nightmare.blovy8https://www.blogger.com/profile/06888192019412533415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-12524764442393472532015-01-09T12:23:52.713-08:002015-01-09T12:23:52.713-08:00One of the good things about being a terrible team...One of the good things about being a terrible team-the 2006-2010 Nats for example--is being able to see EVERY ONE of your minor league prospects play at the major league level and have a good feel about their future before making big changes at the major league level.<br /><br />One of the bad things about being a good team is not being able to do that. You have to guess if it's going to be Taylor, Souza or Goodwin that becomes the everyday major-leaguer. So you guess and you guess wrong, and you lose your quality major league players to free agency or trade, and the team becomes a boatload of minor league misses. <br /><br />And then you become a bad team again, and it all starts over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-91113150250865247132015-01-09T10:26:08.646-08:002015-01-09T10:26:08.646-08:00Anon #2 - totally right. Must have flipped the num...Anon #2 - totally right. Must have flipped the numbers when looking at it back and forth. Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-19986973448634196202015-01-09T10:12:53.237-08:002015-01-09T10:12:53.237-08:00Harper, small nit: "I like Taylor better than...Harper, small nit: "I like Taylor better than Goodwin. Goodwin is Taylor with less power, fields worse, walks less, but K's just the same."<br /><br />Goodwin's only advantage over Taylor is the walks. In full season ball, Goodwin has BB% of 16.2, 9.7, 12.4, and 15.2. Taylor's BB% are 6.6, 9.3, 9.5, 11.3. <br /><br />Taylor's certainly trending the right way, but I think this is literally the one are we can say confidently that Goodwin does better than Taylor right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-28572272974036913202015-01-09T09:57:00.927-08:002015-01-09T09:57:00.927-08:00I'm not that big on Taylor to be honest. I fe...I'm not that big on Taylor to be honest. I feel like at least half the organizations have guys just like him and 90% of the time they turn out to be nothing. I can easily see him being like Cameron maybin 2.0 I'd prefer Cole over him Dr Trea (formerly #werthquake) https://www.blogger.com/profile/07450504942328972974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-32391742017468650842015-01-09T09:45:04.268-08:002015-01-09T09:45:04.268-08:00Why didn't Werth deal with the shoulder sooner...Why didn't Werth deal with the shoulder sooner? Did he not know he needed surgery till now? Act a few weeks earlier and we have our questions answered in March not April.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-82161065135306246182015-01-09T09:28:18.084-08:002015-01-09T09:28:18.084-08:00Rosenthal pretty much loves every deal and potenti...Rosenthal pretty much loves every deal and potential deal. Why not? He's not in the "winning baseball games" business; every game and series has a winner, and he's agnostic on who that might be. No, he's in the story lines business, and deals make for story lines. It's like the "all in" narrative. It generates interest, excitement and story lines - who wouldn't be against that? Well, except that "all in" rarely works out the way you anticipate. But Rosenthal/media/MLB Network types don't care as long as they have what <i>they</i> want.<br /><br />I don't know anyone who is against the Nats picking up Zobrist. The dispute is entirely over how much he's worth, and discussions are necessarily hamstrung because we aren't privy to what the teams have actually discussed. If the trade doesn't happen everyone will assume that Rizzo blew it, when in fact the price may simply have been too high.<br /><br />If Werth is sidelined into the seasons, a month of 2014 McLouth would be hard to take. A month of <i>2013 McLouth</i> would fit just fine, thanks. Which is why the O's have been nosing about trying to pick him up on the cheap, btw. How many times will we get burned giving up on players after one crappy year and then having them rebound (Werth, LaRoche, Span, etc) before we learn that regression to the mean can be positive as well as negative?<br /><br />I'm OK with not picking up Asdrubal Cabrera for $8M because I was not impressed by his baseball abilities; he's not old, but he's been declining for years. Perhaps more importantly, he lost his cool and got tossed in NLDS Game 2, and you just can't do that. Compare that with Desmond, who in a crucial playoff situation got called out on a checked swing call by the home plate ump that was so egregiously awful that it got written up by Fangraphs as an example of why the checked swing call should be taken away from the home plate umpire. Desmond started to object, realized the game situation, and kept his cool. Sign that guy, not Cabrera.John C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-8879265432205593552015-01-09T08:59:49.105-08:002015-01-09T08:59:49.105-08:00What if you move Zim to LF while Werth cant play a...What if you move Zim to LF while Werth cant play and pick up Juan Francisco or someone else as a 1b? There's also a former Nat who is technically a FA and might be willing to come back in Adam Dunn at first. And they do always have t-mo. It doesn't seem the OF options are great and the 1b market looks a little better right now.KOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-79606970963343167792015-01-09T08:47:04.483-08:002015-01-09T08:47:04.483-08:00Z11 - TB different market then almost anyone. Numb...Z11 - TB different market then almost anyone. Numbers game with prospects is the only game they can play. Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-38053510576462377512015-01-09T08:38:54.259-08:002015-01-09T08:38:54.259-08:00I forgot Goodwin tore up his shoulder and had an o...I forgot Goodwin tore up his shoulder and had an otherwise forgettable year. Looks like he definitely took a big step back... though that begs the question why would TB take him...<br /><br />I envy the Mets a LITTLE bit... all their prospects are gonna get a shot to play. But making the postseason is nice too I suppose :)Zimmerman11https://www.blogger.com/profile/14524103974207323535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-9513506435330342792015-01-09T08:36:25.721-08:002015-01-09T08:36:25.721-08:00Em Dash - definitely - like with Cabrera. If they ...Em Dash - definitely - like with Cabrera. If they wouldn't take on 8 mill for 1 year for a potential solution without prospect loss will they take on 7.5mill with? (for a much better 1 yr solution) Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-7971988830201259542015-01-09T08:35:20.979-08:002015-01-09T08:35:20.979-08:00JW - It's going to come down the signing ZNN a...JW - It's going to come down the signing ZNN and Fister and Stras - what happens - do they NEED AJ or not. Balls in the air right now. A resistance to trading him could easily be seen as waving by to ZNN/Fister...<br /><br />I like Taylor better than Goodwin. Goodwin is Taylor with less power, fields worse, walks less, but K's just the same.<br /><br />Anon - Yes. Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-90900582835829129152015-01-09T08:35:01.641-08:002015-01-09T08:35:01.641-08:00Something to consider with Zobrist: are they willi...Something to consider with Zobrist: are they willing to take on his salary with a payroll already in the $140m range? He's going to make $7.5m next year and there's been no evidence the Nats are willing to add any payroll obligations beyond league minimum players for 2015. They could make room if they salary-dump trade someone like Clippard, of course, but that makes acquiring Zobrist costlier.<br /><br />I'd want them to trade Cole for Zobrist all things being equal, but I wonder if the money isn't the bigger factor.EmDashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-85430353102151786002015-01-09T08:31:06.159-08:002015-01-09T08:31:06.159-08:00Jimmy - I am Ken Rosenthal. This is where I get ou...Jimmy - I am Ken Rosenthal. This is where I get out all those things I can't say in public....<br /><br />I'm a very boring person obsessed with the Nats. <br /><br />Z11 - Team Control. That and Marginal Wins per dollar will get you a nice write up in Fangraphs as an organization doing it right. I'd rather win. <br /><br />I think we're at a very crucial turning point in the Nats and we're having issues because the crux is ZNN/Desi/Stras etc. You sign all these guys, guys like Cole and Goodwin, a back of the rotation prospect and a toolsy guy rapidly losing status, become trade chips. You don't sign them and these guys become necessary because of what you say - you need the numbers. <br /><br />I do think we have to worry about perception. Seems like Nats fans think they are building a SF/STL type team or an ATL 90s team but PLENTY of teams have tried the constant build from within strategy and met with little success. It's easy to see a Nats team in 2017 having 75 wins, a couple shining players, and a lot of middling guys who were prospects. <br /><br />The future is cloudy. The present is clear. If it doesn't cost you the A prospects I say deal. <br /><br />Jimmy - Asdrubal would have been ok. Figured the Nats didn't want to go nulti-year which is fine but he didn't sign multi-year which puts it back on it being about $. Perhaps that's the case - payroll can't increase. Or perhaps they don't want to make any moves for sig $ until FA stuff is cleared up. Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.com