tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post6605047660564241668..comments2024-03-18T07:03:39.210-07:00Comments on Nationals Baseball: Fister PumpHarperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-2314067352112271952022-08-20T19:21:54.215-07:002022-08-20T19:21:54.215-07:00n2g24q2e24 k9w49k0g98 a4d83k2j92 m1d77o6k47 e2... <a href="https://dyteigh49996.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"><strong>n2g24q2e24</strong></a> k9w49k0g98 <a href="https://thoadee91852.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"><strong>a4d83k2j92</strong></a> m1d77o6k47 <a href="https://shesyth04784.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"><strong>e2i58z9c98</strong></a> n1l40y0q25shasoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13022604412731989268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-65135745060880346172013-12-03T22:11:23.931-08:002013-12-03T22:11:23.931-08:00I need another season before I believe in Walter&#...I need another season before I believe in Walter's sudden power stroke. Nothing in his previous seasons telegraphed that, and it may be a mirageJohn C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00177992237175546115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-35686480693408517142013-12-03T20:26:07.899-08:002013-12-03T20:26:07.899-08:00I agree that it's a steal of a trade for the N...I agree that it's a steal of a trade for the Nats, and by giving up three guys from the 40-man, it also opens up the opportunity to address needs without waiving somebody. Lots of good analysis going on regarding this. Cedeno figures to be a happy guy, or at least an X factor. I don't think Espy will be the immediate choice for that utility job, at the very least, they'll bring in a vet on a minor-league deal. Walters and Kobernus don't have the defense to feel like viable utility options, though I suspect Walters will get a real chance despite his K and error rate. You just don't find a lot of SS who hit 29 homers at AAA.<br /><br />That Ellsbury deal is nuts, but aren't they all. An option for an 8th year? blovy8https://www.blogger.com/profile/06888192019412533415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-83530053095679127902013-12-03T19:55:43.792-08:002013-12-03T19:55:43.792-08:00Chinatown Express said...
"@nicoxen: Did Gio...Chinatown Express said...<br /><br />"@nicoxen: Did Gio Gonzalez suddenly become a righty?"<br /><br />Dunce cap for me. I hadn't had my coffee when I posted that comment.<br /><br />Either way, Ross has performed admirably out of the pen in the past while his starting pitching has been spotty (especially in 2013). If the Nats can get more quality starts out a Taylor Jordan or Tanner Roark, why wouldn't Detwiler in relief make sense?nicoxenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12919499690593370391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-51802883377850276122013-12-03T19:32:31.002-08:002013-12-03T19:32:31.002-08:00Oops, Lombo is sub-.300 OBP, not OPS, although it ...Oops, Lombo is sub-.300 OBP, not OPS, although it did seem like that at times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-81609718981962000862013-12-03T19:29:53.474-08:002013-12-03T19:29:53.474-08:00It's a steal for the Nats. Ray still has a lo...It's a steal for the Nats. Ray still has a long way to go to prove that he's anything. He got hit very hard in 2012 and dropped well down most prospect lists before rebounding this year. He likely wasn't going to crack the Nats' rotation, particularly not in the next 2-3 years.<br /><br />As for Lombo, no, he is NOT SS material--Davy played Rendon as the backup to Desi, not Lombo. We all loved to cheer Lombo, but we can't carry a sub-.300 OPS guy on our bench anymore. (Hear that, Hairston and T-Mo?) I have no idea why DET didn't insist on Espy, Walters, or Kobernus instead of Lombo. Four years of team control doesn't mean much for a guy who will struggle to make your MLB roster.<br /><br />The other thing to love about Fister is the contract situation. The numbers out there for guys not nearly as good and/or much older are insane.<br /><br />Yes, it might be inflated to think of Fister as a #2-type starter, but he doesn't have to be for the Nats. He just has to be better than EJax and Haren at #4, so the bar is pretty low. There was no reason on God's Green Earth to pay $15 million for a #4 starter.<br /><br />And yes, the Nats' infield defense WILL be MUCH better than Detroit's. Matty W. is a meticulous infield coach. Admittedly, it would be better if Espy makes it all the way back, but that's still a big "if."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-28306449761294424502013-12-03T18:56:20.649-08:002013-12-03T18:56:20.649-08:00So how's JayZ looking as your agent now? My im...So how's JayZ looking as your agent now? My impression is that Boras is filling up budgets as fast as he can and Cano will be left with either a high dollar short term deal or an embarrassing long term deal. I believe the Ellsbury signing just brought a few more teams back in play. 2 years, 28 million? The Lerners could easily stomach that, I'm thinkin'<br /><br />ChaosAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-38089335290379533032013-12-03T17:35:24.940-08:002013-12-03T17:35:24.940-08:00Fister, I hardly knew her.
Thanks, I'll be he...Fister, I hardly knew her.<br /><br />Thanks, I'll be here all the week.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-16115910873411076082013-12-03T14:49:39.995-08:002013-12-03T14:49:39.995-08:00With the Detwiler start/pen thing- I may be gettin...With the Detwiler start/pen thing- I may be getting a little presumptuous but if we get to the playoffs with a healthy rotation Detwiler will be moved back to the pen anyway. So for the playoffs we'll at least have him as a lefty in the pen.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-79522148769900986132013-12-03T14:30:10.732-08:002013-12-03T14:30:10.732-08:00Nats 2014- Fister of FuryNats 2014- Fister of FuryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-53206048542658433062013-12-03T11:17:26.332-08:002013-12-03T11:17:26.332-08:00Foolishness if Detwiler is moved to the bullpen. W...Foolishness if Detwiler is moved to the bullpen. When healthy he is a far superior pitcher to both Roark and Jordan. I expected him to take the next step last year before he got hurt. Roark was a non-prospect who got hot at the right time for the Nats, but expecting him to continue that would seem like playing with fire. Jordan was a fringe prospect who pitched okay, Detwiler is a former #1 pick who sits in the mid to high 90's with very heavy sink on his fastball. Not to mention that he's very long in his delivery so his 95 feels like 99 compared to a short armer. JWLumleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13359661418378496780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-82955086823277745672013-12-03T10:58:57.907-08:002013-12-03T10:58:57.907-08:00@nicoxen: Did Gio Gonzalez suddenly become a righ...@nicoxen: Did Gio Gonzalez suddenly become a righty?<br /><br />It's probably helpful to have a mix of righties and lefties, but only on the margins, right? The value of a lefty-specialist reliever is that it lets you enjoy a favorable matchup for the entire time that guy is on the mound. Since no team has an all-lefty lineup, you don't get that advantage with a lefty starter. So if you're playing a club that is made up predominantly of lefties, you can start your lefty reliever. But you can only do that if he is up in the rotation already, or if you pitch him out of order. And you can only occasionally get away with pitching a starter out of order. So I'd say the advantage on a game-by-game management basis is very slim. If you have an arch-rival in your division, I suppose having an all-righty rotation would encourage your rival to build a mostly-lefty lineup, but that's a pretty speculative downside.Chinatown Expressnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-49624250438625115472013-12-03T10:15:26.596-08:002013-12-03T10:15:26.596-08:00@harper
Two quick questions:
1) Do the Tigers kn...@harper<br /><br />Two quick questions:<br /><br />1) Do the Tigers know something we don't about Fister? Why unload a top 20 starter for 1 prospect, a utility player, and a dime a dozen reliever?<br /><br />2) Now that the Nats need at least two lefty relievers, is there any chance that Detwiler could be moved to the bullpen if Taylor Jordan, Tanner Roark, or Nate Karns has a strong spring? I realize this would mean 5 man RHP rotation, but how important is righty lefty matchups for starters anyway.nicoxenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12919499690593370391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-2095890444565648422013-12-03T10:13:04.047-08:002013-12-03T10:13:04.047-08:00It was highway robbery, it was daylight robbery, i...It was highway robbery, it was daylight robbery, it was armed robbery, it was just plain robbery robbery. Rizzo made up for the Span for Meyer trade with this one. (To think the Twins got more for a below league average hitter who plays great defense than the Tigers got for a cost controlled middle to front of the rotation starter.) This trade appears to be in the Wilson Ramos for Matt Capps territoryJWLumleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13359661418378496780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-25324757981743508272013-12-03T10:09:47.728-08:002013-12-03T10:09:47.728-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.nicoxenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12919499690593370391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-21467454326426342872013-12-03T09:49:35.619-08:002013-12-03T09:49:35.619-08:00All this talk of infielders just makes me weep for...All this talk of infielders just makes me weep for the fate of our dear Espy. Old Espy would do so much for the completeness of the Nats. But we've hashed that through enough.<br /><br />That really is a good looking rotation, and with substantially less of the "with no regression and no injuries" approach we had evaluating the Haren deal last year. The battle for the fifth spot should be an interesting storyline, and maybe encourage some development that could create a little more depth than last year.<br /><br />So that was pretty much the fun part of the offseason for us, barring an unlikely run at Cano. Now it's pen and bench upgrades, which, while important, are not nearly as sexy.Kenny B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01104648417209196641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-30009495064891773072013-12-03T09:22:40.399-08:002013-12-03T09:22:40.399-08:00@Anon:
If Espi learns to hit again he's one o...@Anon:<br /><br />If Espi learns to hit again he's one of the top 2Bs in the NL (mind you, that says as much about 2Bs in the NL as it does about Espi, but an OPS in the .700s with power and a vacuum-cleaner glove is pretty impressive).<br /><br />Otherwise, I love the trade. Lombo was useful but there are many other players who can do a number of the same things. Ray is an absolute question mark whose apparent upside is "about as good as Fister will be 3-4 years from now." Krol is a relief pitcher, not a bad one, but still no more than the fifth guy out of the pen for the Nationals at this point and may end up just a LOOGY if he doesn't improve as expected. All this for two years of a #2 starter. There's always randomness--injuries, etc.--but really, this looks like pure theft by any measure available now.DezoPenguinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-67921218889736947052013-12-03T09:20:03.350-08:002013-12-03T09:20:03.350-08:00Still too soon to tell what other deals may happen...Still too soon to tell what other deals may happen, but for now, Danny Espinosa has to be pretty psyched. I assume at this point he takes Lombo's position on the bench. The lefty hole in the pen got a little worse. While people have talked about moving Det to the pen, my guess is that this makes it more likely Solis is there. Donaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295227567170577873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-27193445839677206672013-12-03T08:28:17.136-08:002013-12-03T08:28:17.136-08:00Well lombo or Espy had to go this year because the...Well lombo or Espy had to go this year because they would fill the same role on the bench. Espy has no trade value and to be honest the better player (better d, better speed, better power - if only he learns to somewhat hit again he will be a very valuable bench spot and maybe a trade piece down the road)-If I was detroit I would have wanted Espy over Lombo. So I'm glad they wanted Lombo. I think Krol is hard for us to lose, we know need to add a couple of lefties to the pen. <br /><br />I assume that the domino from this give Detweiler the lead on number 5 spot as he is a lefty and (at least Davey) managers like a righty, lefty mix of SPs...might be interesting to see Fister at the number 3 spot and move zimm to four(if his pride can handle it) I think Zimm is the better pitcher - but the speed change could have better outcomes for both pitchers. <br /><br />Harper - Any non tendered targets? Catcher, pen, bench?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-72099505576549501162013-12-03T08:25:12.830-08:002013-12-03T08:25:12.830-08:00Can we order our 2014 NL East Champions gear yet? ...Can we order our 2014 NL East Champions gear yet? When will it go on sale? Also would like to order some playoff tickets.<br /><br />Looks like a great trade, though Fister could get injured and Ray could be the next... Doug Fister? Hopefully Detroit doesn't know something about Fister that we don't.<br /><br />But great news. This should lift Washington's spirits a bit. <br /><br />Strasburg/Gio/Zimmermann/Fister. Wow! <br /><br />Also, a possible source of an offseason post: Is there any advantage to be gained from Fister throwing slower than the rest of the Nats rotation? Will the other starts "speed up" opponents bats for Fister? Will Fister slow them down for the Nats flamethrowers? Is there any research on this?<br /><br />A lot of people have been talking about this recent piece that found a significant "R.A. Dickey Effect": http://www.fangraphs.com/community/the-r-a-dickey-effect-2013-edition/<br /><br />Could there be a subtler Fister effect? Given that Detroit has some flamethrowers themselves, it probably would have worked in their favor if it were there.cassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-57382281854638445842013-12-03T08:18:31.747-08:002013-12-03T08:18:31.747-08:00Great trade given that sets up the Nats more for &...Great trade given that sets up the Nats more for "win now" than win later. Ray could be plus in late 2015 or 2016 but Nats need to win in 2014 and Fister is a step up.<br /><br /><br />Lot of raised eyebrows b/c I would have expected Fister to go for more. Great deal for Nats.Hoonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-7670899823261961292013-12-03T08:14:37.137-08:002013-12-03T08:14:37.137-08:00While I generally prefer my soft-tossing GB pitche...While I generally prefer my soft-tossing GB pitchers to have a single brow, I have to say I like the trade.Donaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295227567170577873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-85183419347618066392013-12-03T08:09:56.454-08:002013-12-03T08:09:56.454-08:00Certainly looks like a good trade for the Nats. W...Certainly looks like a good trade for the Nats. Will need to address the bench with Lombo gone. He definitely was nice from the perspective that he could fill in so many places. Trade could look bad in three years, but I think it was a good calculated risk for the next couple of seasons. The number 5 starter battle should be interesting in Spring Training.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com