tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post7875844616741862217..comments2024-03-28T10:50:33.234-07:00Comments on Nationals Baseball: Under the radarHarperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07738813756060133236noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-73091144293096755072021-03-08T07:45:26.712-08:002021-03-08T07:45:26.712-08:00supreme clothing
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If they come out and beat up on the Astros and Braves then ok, but I'm not expecting that.<br /><br />Is it time to trade for a second baseman that can hit - Aaron Hill or Chase Utley, and leave Zimmerman in LF when Harper comes back? Span got hot to get back to average. He is now 0-19 and hasn't had a hit since last Monday. Not what you want out of leadoff spot. Also, Werth's power is down again. Should he be in the 3 hole in batting order?<br /><br />Bad weekend erased great week. Oh well.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-14505393175622238172014-06-16T06:41:14.297-07:002014-06-16T06:41:14.297-07:00I'm not even concerned about the three losses ...I'm not even concerned about the three losses in and of themselves. It's the mental aspect of getting swept by a rival right before going into an extremely important series against the other always-seems-to-get-the-best-of-the-Nats rival.BooyahSuckah!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-91188646697766066622014-06-16T06:30:04.005-07:002014-06-16T06:30:04.005-07:00well that went bad fast...well that went bad fast...jesterboonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-27092598130556895112014-06-13T14:30:24.169-07:002014-06-13T14:30:24.169-07:003 of 4 from SF? That was awesome... now let's...3 of 4 from SF? That was awesome... now let's rough up the Cards! I'd take getting swept by HOU if we can take 2 off STL!Zimmerman11https://www.blogger.com/profile/14524103974207323535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-41792279525650290052014-06-13T14:05:23.232-07:002014-06-13T14:05:23.232-07:00Maybe... never was good at math. I don't thin...Maybe... never was good at math. I don't think Treinen puts the ball in play. He's terrible at the plate and Fangraphs has him striking out 60% of the time- that's a crazy high number.<br /><br />Where's Cass? He usually has an opinion about these things?Chas Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00306056671418831755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-49237096219728138152014-06-13T13:51:59.344-07:002014-06-13T13:51:59.344-07:00Harper -- what's your take on bunting in that ...Harper -- what's your take on bunting in that situation? Like I said originally, I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other. If it were Znn or Strasburg who are both pretty good with the bat, I might call for the bunt on the first pitch to get the corners moving in and then call it off. Seems like the odds of a better outcome increase when the whole infield is in motion to cover for a bunt.<br /><br />Donaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295227567170577873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-86043789225028179052014-06-13T13:48:52.928-07:002014-06-13T13:48:52.928-07:00On base percentage doesn't indicate how often ...On base percentage doesn't indicate how often he puts the ball in play. Go to baseball-reference and look at his stats from the minors and majors.<br /><br />It doesn't matter who is batting. It's math. <br /><br />I'm bowing out of this.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191064015594652370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-26455603731360022192014-06-13T13:24:17.451-07:002014-06-13T13:24:17.451-07:00@Drew Where did you get stat that Treinen makes co...@Drew Where did you get stat that Treinen makes contact 50% of the time? He's a notorious K Master, with a .200 OBP:<br /><br />http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=12572&position=PB#advanced<br /><br />He's got to bunt there.Chas Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00306056671418831755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-41281635766651084602014-06-13T12:21:40.571-07:002014-06-13T12:21:40.571-07:00How did you forget about Houston,? They're ba...How did you forget about Houston,? They're basically as hot as us and got their two best pitchers goingDr Trea (formerly #werthquake) https://www.blogger.com/profile/07450504942328972974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-712982796386562262014-06-13T12:18:44.144-07:002014-06-13T12:18:44.144-07:00I'd very much rather have the run and 0 on wit...I'd very much rather have the run and 0 on with two outs. Hitting into the double play isn't ideal, but it ties the game.<br /><br />When you bunt there, (barring an error) you take away any chance of the runner on 3rd scoring on that play.<br /><br />Treinen has put the ball in play in roughly 50% of his professional at bats not including walks (13 of 27). If he swings away, there is some chance the runner on third scores.<br /><br />Throwing away an out to move a guy from 1st to 2nd while there's a runner (not to mention the tying run) standing on 3rd base is the wrong move.<br /><br />Bottom line- The likelihood of scoring a run in the inning decreased with that decision.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191064015594652370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-9690286728858803762014-06-13T11:15:37.216-07:002014-06-13T11:15:37.216-07:00I can understand pinch hitting for him. But letti...I can understand pinch hitting for him. But letting him swing away is likely to end in an out that doesn't advance the runners or a double play. There's a chance he could make a productive out but the odds are probably against that, especially with Hudson on the mound. <br /><br />So the question is would you rather have runners on second and third with 1 out; first and third with 1 out or none on with 2 outs and a run in -- with the top of the order coming to bat?<br /><br />If you'd rather have 1 run and two outs, then bunting him probably wouldn't make sense. But the odds would probably be that he strikes out or pops up anyway. And with Span batting next, you'd probably have decent odds of getting a run home regardless. That double play ball was hit to about the worst possible place for the Nats given Span's speed. In any case, I don't think it's particularly outrageous to bunt. Playing for a single, rally-killing run when you are down on the road seems very much like small ball when your line-up is hitting so well.Donaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295227567170577873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-5493516372040744022014-06-13T10:51:14.906-07:002014-06-13T10:51:14.906-07:00Donald-
Bunting in general.
The likelihood of sc...Donald-<br /><br />Bunting in general.<br /><br />The likelihood of scoring a run in an inning decreases when you go from<br />A) runners on 1st and 3rd, 0 out<br />to<br />B) runners on 2nd and 3rd, 1 out<br /><br />I don't care if its Treinen facing Tim Hudson. I'd rather see the tying run score while he grounds into a double play than see him bunt 3 straight pitches into foul territory. <br /><br />And if he strikes out or pops up, hey, he failed, but at least he didn't fail while doing something stupid like bunting.<br /> Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191064015594652370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-30659088644576039862014-06-13T10:43:24.051-07:002014-06-13T10:43:24.051-07:00Well, I think I will be cancelling my ESPN subscri...Well, I think I will be cancelling my ESPN subscription. Hello Sports Illustrated.Chas Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00306056671418831755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-4560237390000828472014-06-13T10:00:34.174-07:002014-06-13T10:00:34.174-07:00Booyah -- that I can agree with. Booyah -- that I can agree with. Donaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295227567170577873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-24314196360417447052014-06-13T09:42:46.964-07:002014-06-13T09:42:46.964-07:00And speaking of "Under the Radar", leave...And speaking of "Under the Radar", leave it to ESPN to run this piece of garbage the day after the Nats take 3 of 4 at the Giants' home field:<br /><br />http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11076758/the-moves-san-francisco-giants-gm-brian-sabean<br /><br />And I'll bet it would've run anyway, even if they HAD been swept. No love.BooyahSuckah!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-54400806528438194982014-06-13T09:39:50.144-07:002014-06-13T09:39:50.144-07:00Donald, I can't speak for Drew, but for me, th...Donald, I can't speak for Drew, but for me, the disagreement was with batting him at all. I thought they should have pinch hit for him and brought in a reliever the following inning. He'd gotten into a serious jam the inning before and was showing an inability to hit the strike zone. His pitch count was high for that point in the game, so it was likely that he was going to be done after another inning anyway (two at the absolute most). The Nats bullpen was well rested given the long streak of quality starts. Hudson had been very strong so far, and I thought this was probably our last opportunity to rack up at least one and maybe multiple runs. <br /><br />It's just playing the odds, which MW doesn't seem to want to do. He seems like a "this is what the book says so this is what I'm doing" kind of guy, like having a defined "8th inning guy" and "7th inning guy". "Well, it's only the top of the 5th, and he's only given up two, so I can't pinch hit for him. They won't let me into the Traditional Managers Club for lunch, and I do love the tuna salad there".BooyahSuckah!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-10794925400701834932014-06-13T09:35:14.199-07:002014-06-13T09:35:14.199-07:00@Drew/ BooyahSuckah!: Treinan is completely useles...@Drew/ BooyahSuckah!: Treinan is completely useless at the plate, if he's a guaranteed out he should at least put the ball in play and in his case(imho) he's got a better shot at doing that by bunting than by swinging. Jimmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536083039518387432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-55805449855336090102014-06-13T09:03:18.038-07:002014-06-13T09:03:18.038-07:00Drew and Booyah -- I don't have a really stron...Drew and Booyah -- I don't have a really strong opinion on the topic, though I will say that had the bunt been successful a run would have scored on Span's grounder up the middle. It's impossible to say what the outcome would have been if he hadn't bunted. My thought at the time was that a bunt call was fine for the first two strikes. Bunting with 2 strikes after missing the first two seems like you're just giving away an out for free. With no outs, even a double play ball brings home a run. <br /><br />So is your disagreement with Williams over bunting in general or bunting after 2 strikes? Donaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295227567170577873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-55532328932408240472014-06-13T08:37:04.092-07:002014-06-13T08:37:04.092-07:00Drew, I said the exact same thing while I was list...Drew, I said the exact same thing while I was listening to the game on the radio. The inning before, I'm convinced we were one hitter away from pulling Treinen. Somehow we manage to get out of the inning and remain down by only one run. Pitcher's spot comes up in a key offensive situation, and lo and behold, no PH approaches the plate.<br /><br />The kid did a good job getting out of the situation, but he's done. Pull him and get some offense. The bullpen could arguably use the work anyway, since the rotation has been so good lately.<br /><br />I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the manager may not mean much when it comes to adding wins, but he can mean a lot when it comes to costing them.BooyahSuckah!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-91419099126591026732014-06-13T08:09:15.670-07:002014-06-13T08:09:15.670-07:00-Treinen gets out of a bases loaded/no out situati...-Treinen gets out of a bases loaded/no out situation<br />-Frandsen and Lobaton put men on 1st and 3rd with back-to-back singles<br />-With zero out, Matt Williams calls for a bunt<br />-Nats score zero runs in the inning<br /><br />This was a momentum-obliterating and game-changing decision. Williams did the same thing against Miami, and we didn't score any runs in that inning either. I am appalled that I have not read anything about it on the various Nats blogs.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191064015594652370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-2899962231563026292014-06-13T08:07:34.617-07:002014-06-13T08:07:34.617-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191064015594652370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-77101607100931306492014-06-13T08:01:04.955-07:002014-06-13T08:01:04.955-07:00Totally agree with John C- Better be careful not t...Totally agree with John C- Better be careful not to look past Houston. Talk about flying under the radar- Bo has his young team quietly playing very well. If we overlook the Astros while focusing on the Cardinals and Braves, we could easily lose one or both of those games. <br /><br />The Nat continue to get some back channel recognition- Richard Justice from Baseball Prospectus was on MLB Now. They all said they think the Nats will win the NL East. Chas Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00306056671418831755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-3040997118629970272014-06-13T07:57:30.075-07:002014-06-13T07:57:30.075-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chas Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00306056671418831755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-46118255188489069212014-06-13T07:52:25.331-07:002014-06-13T07:52:25.331-07:00The Astros have been playing well and it's har...The Astros have been playing well and it's hard to root against them. The Braves play 3 in Houston right after leaving DC so if the Astros play us tough, I sure hope they can keep it up.Donaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295227567170577873noreply@blogger.com