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Done and don...Roark and AJ cole for Mookie Betts. <br /><br />Done and done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-7379886759928278062014-10-21T18:26:57.236-07:002014-10-21T18:26:57.236-07:00Desmond, Clippard, Souza, Detwiler, Voth, and mayb...Desmond, Clippard, Souza, Detwiler, Voth, and maybe Hill to the A's for Donaldson and Jaso, with Beane involving a third (and potentially a fourth) party to give him a good return for Desi, Clip, and maybe Det (all of whom only have one year left before FA). I would think Desi could end up with the Dodgers or the Yankees, but I'd rather have Donaldson than anything those two could offer directly. That might leave the Nats with Espy at SS, but his defense there would compensate more for his bat than it does at 2B.<br /><br />Now that's outside the box. With any team other than the A's, I would say it could never happen.KWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-51072407932299041172014-10-21T12:20:30.136-07:002014-10-21T12:20:30.136-07:00Ollie: Maybe I'm kidding myself, but isn'...Ollie: Maybe I'm kidding myself, but isn't that a small return for Z'nn?Chinatown Expressnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-88980978270319460522014-10-21T11:35:51.376-07:002014-10-21T11:35:51.376-07:00Zimmermann, with most of his salary covered, for Z...Zimmermann, with most of his salary covered, for Zobrist plus a prospect (or two)? Olliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13985806525460388793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-75685073087366387692014-10-21T09:28:34.802-07:002014-10-21T09:28:34.802-07:00Sign Sandoval, with a weight clause in the contrac...Sign Sandoval, with a weight clause in the contract, and platoon him with Danny. Danny can hit lefties, Pablo can't. After all, it's someone else's money. <br /><br />Other crazy ideas. Michael Morse used to be a SS, why can't he play 3B? He's a FA, sign him and LaRoche. Between Morse, LaRoche and Zim the Nats should be able to get 2 full seasons worth of PA's. Also, teach Souza to play 3B. He seems fairly athletic, why do teams assume you have to be short to play the infield and if you're very tall you're destined for the outfield or 3B? <br /><br />Finally, trade for other team's B prospects at 2B and 3B. Get enough of them and see which one works out. Trade the remainders for bullpen depth. <br /><br />Uh, this isn't going to end well. JWLumleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13359661418378496780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-68614421859903171292014-10-21T07:04:01.089-07:002014-10-21T07:04:01.089-07:00should have just thrown the bank at cano....should have just thrown the bank at cano....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12599491633554776280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-84145627416184031572014-10-21T02:34:41.313-07:002014-10-21T02:34:41.313-07:00The scariest option I have seen is Stephen Drew, m...The scariest option I have seen is Stephen Drew, mentioned by Kilgore, who has both the D-back and Boras pedigrees. Ugh. Or Uggla, who is a much better hitter, which is saying something. Just say no!<br /><br />I wouldn't completely dismiss the Kendrick idea, as the Angels are desperate for pitching, and he is only signed for one year. That would be another Cabrera-like stopgap measure, though.<br /><br />I agree with the consensus that it should be easier to find a higher-impact 3B than 2B. (Zobrist is the only 2B who really interests me, but he's also only signed for one year [if they pick up his option], and as blovy points out, the Rays don't really need pitchers.) Panda will not age well, plus his regular-season stats aren't that great anyway. I'm not sure Hanley would be worth the risk/price. Headley probably won't be available for the discount at which he should come because the Yanks will be in the bidding.<br /><br />So we're down to trading for Donaldson or Beltre. Despite all the mentions of him, I really don't know why Donaldson would be available. We'll see. It would take quite a package to get him, including Souza, maybe Cole, maybe even Roark. Beltre is old and expensive but still hitting well, and he might come at a bit of a discount trade-wise as the Rangers need to clear slots for their kids to play.KWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-27720675817571318942014-10-20T13:41:50.686-07:002014-10-20T13:41:50.686-07:00SIGN DAN UGGLA! (teee hehehe. Sorry. But wouldn...SIGN DAN UGGLA! (teee hehehe. Sorry. But wouldn't Braves fans' heads explode if Uggla became a restoration project with the Nats and put up good numbers?)<br /><br />If we somehow landed Altuva, I'd be the first one to buy a jersey, probably in a size too large for him to wear. But I agree that signing a 3B is our obvious solution, with Tex moving back to 2B.<br />Chinatown Expressnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-50414746802017684722014-10-20T13:28:26.434-07:002014-10-20T13:28:26.434-07:00I'm talking myself out of options, except that...I'm talking myself out of options, except that Espinosa isn't one of them. I can't argue with your reasoning, but I don't conclude that Zobrist will be available to the Nats - even for Tampa, his 7.5m option really should be affordable. He's too valuable even for just the one year of service, because unless he falls apart, they can assume the gamble that they'd get a pick after next season since he would be nuts to settle for a one year qualifying deal even at his age. They have a ton of pitching, which is the Nats' asset, and are the Nats willing to trade position players to get him? That depletes the farm depth, and still leaves you with the same infield questions in 2016. If the Rays even imagine they can compete (and they should) and they take prospects, how do they replace a 5 WAR everyday player in 2015 with their budget? Lots of little upgrades? Rizzo probably wouldn't do a the rental deal that deprives the club of a major future piece, because the budget is getting pinched here too. I don't think the Rays will get that much dumber post-Friedman, but maybe you're right and we have a Smyly face for them.<br /> <br />In the same way, I would not expect the Lerners to spend the $$ for Sandoval or Beltre's contracts even with the savings from LaRoche and Soriano moving on since all that will probably be used up in arbitration raises. Sandoval will get a lot of years for a fat guy and cost a pick in the unlikely event SF doesn't find a way to get him back. Texas will think they can get healthy and compete in 2015 with Beltre and their own fat-contracted Fielder. Much as I like the idea of buying low on Kipnis, Cleveland just locked him up in a long deal that still looks pretty good, so it still really isn't buying low, it's going to cost a lot. Taking one of Arizona's young infielders come with a risk, that makes sense if you're not in win-now mode, but it might leave them no better off next year. It's probably better than nothing and the odds on favorite. <br /><br />Do the Angels have a decent replacement for Kendrick? Detwiler or really any starting pitcher could make sense for them since he's gone after next year.<br /><br />Wilmer Difo seems a bit overhyped after finally having some success in a full season league and he's been around long enough to need a 40-man roster spot - that seems like a situation where he's worth more to a club who's thin in the minors than to the Nats in win-mode. It's really too bad that Utley is nixing deals, because that might be the start of something. Renda's probably more a Lombo-type player than the Pedroia-type wishful thinking I've heard.<br />blovy8https://www.blogger.com/profile/06888192019412533415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-62064746683682719222014-10-20T11:03:09.977-07:002014-10-20T11:03:09.977-07:00Beckham doesn't work well as a platoon with Es...Beckham doesn't work well as a platoon with Espinosa, since he bats from the side (RH) that Espinosa actually hits decently from. And while Beckham doesn't have much of a platoon split for his career, last year he was dreadful against RHP (.560 OPS).<br /><br />I'm in the "shift Rendon to second for now, get a good third baseman, keep Espinosa as a cheap, glove-first utility guy and a lottery ticket in case giving up switch-hitting is a panacea" camp. The problem with trading is that most of the trade targets discussed (Beltre or Donaldson at 3b, Zobrist at 2b) are playing for teams that are also more or less in "win now" mode and so aren't likely to just let these guys go. They would have to have an excellent backup option before trading their starter. On the plus side, that might make them more willing to take a player that is nearing free agency, like Detwiler, if it meets a need.<br /><br />As for the free agents, HanRam has a reputation as a clubhouse cancer and has trouble staying on the field. Sandoval's body type does not tend to age well, so is a very risky long term investment. Chase Headley might be a good option if he's willing to sign a one year deal to build his market value back up. He's a very good glove and a switch hitter who has done better against RHP for his career (though not in 2014). He can also play first. I'm not sure I'd go 3+ years with Headley for anything close to what he made last year ($10.5M), though. Too risky given his declining bat and having just turned 30.John C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-27380601222717606462014-10-20T10:28:01.052-07:002014-10-20T10:28:01.052-07:00I think Wally is on the right track with the contr...I think Wally is on the right track with the controllable, blocked youngsters. That seems to be a Rizzo thing. You might also look at Texas with Profar (if he's ever healthy), Odor, and Sardinas. And, I think they could use a young OF. Seattle's need for hitting could could also be a fit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-39630861787788305982014-10-20T09:42:45.815-07:002014-10-20T09:42:45.815-07:00I have to think, tying back into the 1st base disc...I have to think, tying back into the 1st base discussion, we should throw Zimm at 1st, pick up Span, stick Rendon at 2nd where he's serviceable defensively and I expect he would get better with time (only -8 defensive runs saved this season projecting a full season), then sign a big name at 3rd. I like Panda if Rizzo can get him to lose another 20 lbs, he's a surprisingly good fielder and would only get better and more agile with a little less of a gut.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-11951353406713694072014-10-20T09:38:27.440-07:002014-10-20T09:38:27.440-07:00I think that there may be a few other options.
Tr...I think that there may be a few other options.<br /><br />Trades: (i) Turnaround guys (I assume it takes a belief in them and mostly assume the contract): Kipnis, Gyorko, Ackley<br />(ii) young MI with no place to play (also hedges SS): Taylor/Miller (SEA); Gregorius, Ahmed, Owings (ARI); I am sure there are others<br /><br />Also, FA could be Lowrie.<br /><br />Personally, I'd move Rendon back to 2B for the reasons you suggest, and Sign Hanley to a 3 yr deal, if he'd sign, to play 3rd. Would he take 3/$50m? We'd be super RH but I'd like to see that line up.<br />Wallynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-66572970560149017152014-10-20T09:34:44.707-07:002014-10-20T09:34:44.707-07:00If I'm Rizzo, I'm pursuing everything simu...If I'm Rizzo, I'm pursuing everything simultaneously. Kick the tires on Donaldson, Beltre, Zobrist, Altuve. See what Sandoval or Headley takes to sign as a FA. Pick whichever one is the best option, with an eye on immediate return because, as noted, the team's in "WIN NOW" mode. Teams in "WIN NOW" mode do not have Danny Espinosa, post-September 2012 edition, in their starting lineups.<br /><br />I'd prefer to have Rendon at 3B because he's a better fielder there, all else being equal, but all else is not equal and the important thing is to have the best team on the field.<br />DezoPenguinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9207681.post-72979680381084491242014-10-20T09:31:34.929-07:002014-10-20T09:31:34.929-07:00The fascination with Frandsen is baffling given th...The fascination with Frandsen is baffling given that he put up a -0.5 bWar for 2014. At least Danny was a perfectly replaceable 0.0. Surprising as well to see that Cabrera came in at -0.3 during his Nats' tenure, meaning that they should not re-sign him unless it for a VERY reasonable cost.<br /><br />One guy you didn't mention was Gordon Beckham, who's likely to be DFA'ed by the Angels so they won't have to pay him the $6 million or so he'll get in arbitration. Beckham bats righty and at least has put up positive WARs his whole career. If the Nats could get Beckham on a cheap one year deal and platoon him with Danny that might a slight improvement over going with Danny alone.karl kolchaknoreply@blogger.com