Nationals Baseball: There's no Ryan in baseball

Wednesday, February 16, 2022

There's no Ryan in baseball

Like I said yesterday Ryan Zimmerman has retired. 

Even though he was only ever a National there were very distinctive parts of Zimmerman's career.  

He began as the hometown wunderkind. The guy from the Tidewater, who went to Virginia, who was the first Nationals draft pick, drafted in June of the Nats inaugural year, and who was the first hot prospect to be brought up to the team that very same year. He would excite fans with three weeks of great play and quickly settle down to play some great D while figuring it out at the plate and suffering through what would be the first of a career full of injuries. He was something positive to focus on as the team reset.

He morphed into one of the best players in baseball.  For two years (2009-2010) he not only played his regular top notch D, but he hit at another level. As basically a .300 30HR guy with 70 walks a year, Zimmerman wasn't the best player in baseball (Pujols was hitting THAT well at this point) but he was right up there. With Strasburg and Bryce being drafted in back to back years it looked like the Nats had a bright future. 

But this time frame was exceedingly brief, as next came the injuries and subsequent defensive woes. He had abdominal surgery to start 2011. He'd injure his shoulder to start 2012, undergoing surgery before 2013. The shoulder one cost him the ability to throw the ball with any confidence and ended his career as a third baseman.  He could still hit well, but the near great .300 / 30 / 70 became the perfectly good .280 / 25 / 60.  He was a cog in the Nats but just that, not the difference maker, not the perennial all-star. 

If it remained there it would have been disappointing but fine. However, it would get worse and we'd get to what looked like the end for Ryan. The missed time would pile up and he'd play only 270 games over the next 3 years. He'd break his thumb and strain his hammy in 2014. He'd begin experiencing plantar fasciitis and hurt his oblique in 2015.  He'd strain a rib and take a baseball to the wrist in 2016. Right when the Nats were peaking as a team, winning the NL East for the third time in 5 years, Zimmerman put out a half-season of terrible baseball. It looked like Ryan was breaking down right out of the game.

But a contract extension signed in 2012 saved his career and allowed for the late career renaissance.  The Nats had to pay him until 2019 so even if he looked done in 2016, he was going to get that chance to come back. And come back he did. Finally he again played close to a full season (144 games) Finally he was free to find his groove and the .300 30 guy came back. We knew it wouldn't last. Despite the fans (and the media!) trying to tell us that Ryan was just missing Spring Training in 2018 because he wanted to, we could read the writing on the wall. But that was ok, because 2017 showed both the fans and the Nats Ryan wasn't completely done. If he could be healthy, he could hit. While he wasn't healthy much over the next couple of years, he was healthy enough to get at bats and hit ok and more importantly he got to be around for 2019. 

He did not hit well in 2019 but he did everything he needed to in the playoffs. He got a key single to with two outs in the 8th that would help set up Soto/Grisham's game winning combo. He hit well in the NLDS, including a mid game 3-run bomb that help put that game 3 away for Max. He didn't hit all that well the rest of the way but he did homer off Gerrit Cole in G1 setting a tone for the World Series and giving the Nats fans a moment. 

After that it was gravy, though thin and watery. The pandemic ruined the victory lap season and even if it didn't, Zimm, with an Mom suffering from MS, chose to sit out 2020. He'd play in 2021 and hit with some pop but also definitely looked his age hitting for the worst average of his career (.243) and barely walking as pitchers saw no reason not to challenge him. If the end wasn't here, it was imminent. So while the retirement is a mild surprise (see two posts ago) it's in no way a shock.

 

What could he have been without the injuries?  Zimm himself put out 400 homers, 500 doubles, 8GG and a hall of famer. It's hard to go ahead and say "with no injuries" because hardly any player has NO injuries, but if we just fill out 2011-2016 with .300 30 which he was in 09-10 and was in 2017, we get 81 more homers, 450 hits, 100 more doubles.  This is probably optimistic but it also has him crashing out at 33 to make up for it. Something like 2300 H, 500+ 2B, 360HR.  Yeah unless Zimm morphed into a 40 homer guy he wasn't getting to 400 easily.  8 Gold Gloves?  He was already not getting his respect winning only in 2009... I suppose if he won in 2011 and 2012 (over Placido Polanco and Chase Headley) he might have gotten 1 or 2 inertia GGs over Arenado, who started winning in 2013, but 8 is way too many. Five tops, and I'd probably guess 3.  

Now does all that put him in the HoF?  Let's say a .285 average 375 HR, 520 doubles, 1700 RBI, 3 GG, probably 5-6 All-Stars. Well Rolen is at what? .281 316HR 517 doubles, 1300 RBI, 8 GG, 7 All-Stars... Both around 125 OPS+... It's tough. You see the issue Rolen has getting in despite being the best 3B for a decade. I don't think Zimm would quite have enough. I think for him to do it, because he wouldn't be seen as that other worldly fielder, you'd have to assume the injuries kept him from hitting another level as a batter. I'm not sure about that.

It's hard to get exactly what Zimmerman meant and I think it's best to see him as the rock. The guy that tied the franchise together, from that magical 2005, to the garbage reset as cheaply as possible teams, to the first window of maddening back and forth success, to the more consistent second window of continued last chance questions, to the frustrating denouement of a team that couldn't keep getting lucky. He was there for it all. He wasn't always the best player, but sometimes he was. He wasn't always the most beloved player, although he was always up there. But he was was always THERE. Which for a fan means a lot.

Happy trails.

7 comments:

DezoPenguin said...

Farewell to Zim. He gave us lot of great memories on the baseball field, and I'm glad he could get that ring in 2019 and be useful in getting it.

(The soulless automaton part of me, though, is glad he's not coming back just because the present roster is really not suited to carry a last-gasp veteran platoon 1B/DH, much as I wish he could have had a better farewell tour kind of year.)

Chas R said...

Well done Harper, a great tribute and farewell to Zim!

TwoGloves said...

Nice send off for Zimm.

Off topic - apparently the Nats made a 13yr/350M offer to Soto before the lockout and it was turned down. It is being reported there were no deferrals or typical Nats shenanigans. If this is true, I see no way that he resigns with the Nats, especially with his agent being you know who. VERY disappointing news.

Nattydread said...

Interesting to compare the on-going histories of Soto and Harper against the histories of Strasburg and Zimmerman. Harper was more or less fixated on getting a record deal (he had the record for a few months) and moved to a rival.

Zimm and SS had more interest in staying put --- possibly because of family considerations and appreciation of the Nats as a team. Both were potential HoF players plagued by injury. But both were rewarded with WS rings.

Very few top caliber players stick with one team for an entire career. I have no qualms with free agency and testing the waters, especially when circumstance (i.e. Rendon) or simple desire to move on force the change. But its a select and special group that are able to reach that $100M long-career payoff stratosphere while maintaining the hometown face-of-the-franchise magic.

Gotta respect Zimm for sticking around, caring less about the money than the franchise. He and Strass will never have to buy themselves a beer in DC again.

Anonymous said...

350M/13 is solid, but it's still a team-friendly deal.

If anything, the fact that it got as far as an offer seems to me to be an encouraging sign regarding an eventual extension. Not that I think it's particularly likely, but if I was thinking it was ~15% yesterday, I'm probably up around 25% now.

Importantly, I think that the lockout changes the motivation for the front office around the decision to leak the story. I don't think this is as correlated as usual with the message: "Well, we tried, fans. Don't hold it against us."

Here you could imagine the leak as a PR bankshot around the CBA itself, though I don't think it will have much effect there. And more simply, the leak could just be intended to break up the brutal "no news is bad news" offseason about Nats and their expected cellar dwelling 2022.

Also, the lockout may have paused negotiations - so we can't infer that the two sides have even exchanged best-for-now numbers. Maybe they were still going back and forth and, like I said, there's definitely some room north of 350 where the Lerners should be happy to end up.

All in, I don't think it's bad news at all.

Harper said...

Nd - Well neither really signed for cheap. Zimmerman was 2nd highest paid 3B when he signed his extension. I think he was most concerned with staying in one place, preferably in DC, but if they didn't give him decent money and a no trade he would have left. So not going JUST for the money but had his demands

Anon and TG - we'll see if it's an opening salvo or their best and final. I think it was something thrown out there without knowing what the CBA would be so not final

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